Thursday, 2015-03-12

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bkuhnbotCopyleftBuild: force11:09
botCopyleftBuildtry 'force build [--branch=BRANCH] [--revision=REVISION] [--props=PROP1=VAL1,PROP2=VAL2...]  <WHICH> <REASON>'11:09
bkuhnbotCopyleftBuild: force build guide-production "why is auto build not working?"11:09
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botCopyleftBuildI'll give a shout when the build finishes11:09
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botCopyleftBuildBuild details are at http://copyleft.org:8010/builders/guide-production/builds/11911:09
bkuhnIs gitorious already gone?11:11
bkuhngit clone git://gitorious.org/copyleft-org/tutorial.git11:11
bkuhnCloning into 'tutorial'...11:11
bkuhnfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly11:11
bkuhn11:11
bkuhnthat used to work11:12
bkuhn(buildbot relied on it)11:12
bkuhngit@gitorious.org:copyleft-org/tutorial.git seems to work now.11:12
* bkuhn changes buildbot11:12
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bkuhnbotCopyleftBuild: force build guide-production "why is auto build not working?"11:14
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bkuhnbotCopyleftBuild: force build guide-production "why is auto build not working?"11:14
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bkuhnbotCopyleftBuild: force build guide-production "changed URL in more places"11:21
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bkuhnbotCopyleftBuild: force build guide-production "https:// URL?"11:47
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* olly is interested in what's considered appropriate for fulfilling GPLv2 §2(a) - the text in 5.1.1 doesn't cover that though19:36
ollyit seems maintaining a changelog which accompanies the code is OK, or else almost all GPL projects are violating that requirement19:37
ollybut is maintaining a public VCS with commit messages?   that doesn't accompany the code when distributed as a tarball19:38
ollyat least in terms of what 5.1.1 says is the intent behind this, a changelog is likely more useful than separate comments at the top of each file, and if the code's in something like git, the commit messages are probably more helpful than a linearised version in a ChangeLog19:41
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* bkuhn rereads the text olly mentions before answering.20:06
bkuhnah, yes.20:07
bkuhnolly: I'd meant actually to write this blog post I made up as a compliance case study on this issue: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/03/11/linux-red-hat-gpl.html20:07
* bkuhn makes that a formal TODO20:07
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ollythat certainly touches on the changelog aspect, but (unless it's part of the sveasoft example) doesn't seem to discuss the VCS aspect20:17
bkuhnolly: As for your more general questions, I *do* think this section could be improved.  I don't have a fully formed plan on how to do that yet, but I did add a FIXME for it: https://gitorious.org/copyleft-org/tutorial/commit/555a72beb1141677b33f74dc2818ef20b17e8e8520:17
bkuhnolly: The short version of my thoughts on this are that I think linking to publicly available DVCS log *is* GPLv2§2(a) complaint, but it's probably much more than the section requires.  (cf: my blog post about the Red Hat Linux git log thing)20:17
ollyyou mean SRPM changelog?20:18
bkuhnwell, that Red hat stopped publishing the git log and some people *said* it's wasn't GPLv2§2(a) compliant, but the SRPM log, as you say, I think made it compliant.20:20
ollyoh i see20:20
ollyFWIW, my questions are in the context of Xapian - I'm interested in providing what's actually useful and avoiding imposing work without much benefit on contributors, but trying to ensure we aren't violating that clause20:27
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bkuhnolly: in that case, I think link to the DVCS log, and ensuring that link is active, is exactly what you want20:42
ollybkuhn: great, thanks20:52
bkuhnTINLA and IANAL as always.20:52
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