Thursday, 2019-10-17
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| gry | is there a copyleft software directory? | 00:48 |
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| jrmu | are you looking for a directory of all free software gry ? | 01:05 |
| gry | no, only all copyleft | 01:05 |
| gry | it is a smaller set than all free | 01:05 |
| jrmu | I'm interested in compiling it on our wiki | 01:05 |
| jrmu | I don't think there exists a decent version out there | 01:05 |
| jrmu | I know some decent compilations | 01:06 |
| jrmu | let me grab some for you, one sec | 01:06 |
| jrmu | is there anything specific you are looking for? | 01:06 |
| jrmu | gry: https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted | 01:07 |
| jrmu | https://suckless.org | 01:07 |
| jrmu | generally though the best software tends to be permissive licensed, GPL software tends to be of very bad quality | 01:08 |
| jrmu | but we can curate two lists, one copyleft and one permissive, so people have choice | 01:08 |
| jrmu | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_packages | 01:08 |
| jrmu | gry: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_Applications | 01:16 |
| bkuhn | jrmu: that's a strange statement about "generally though the best software tends to be permissive licensed, GPL software tends to be of very bad quality" | 01:16 |
| bkuhn | I don't generally find that. | 01:16 |
| bkuhn | I generally find that *all* software tends to be of poor quality and need improvements. ;) | 01:17 |
| bkuhn | and that it's more likely and easier to get improvements done to copylefted software. ;) | 01:17 |
| jrmu | I would be very interested in compiling some better foss lists | 01:17 |
| jrmu | These lists are poorly organized, the licenses are often not clear | 01:17 |
| bkuhn | yeah, probably beyond the scope of this particular project, but I agree with you, finding a good list of Free Software applications is sometimes difficult. | 01:17 |
| jrmu | we need a list to end all lists =) | 01:18 |
| bkuhn | The Debian archive is a good place to start, | 01:18 |
| bkuhn | particularly because Debian vets the licenses of projects before they are allowed in main. | 01:18 |
| jrmu | can you post the URL? or are you referring to the entire repo | 01:18 |
| bkuhn | so anything in Debian "main" has been checked by someone. | 01:18 |
| jrmu | because the debian repo is too massive and there is too much trashy stuff in there | 01:18 |
| bkuhn | but again, probably beyond the scope of a copyleft education project, which this one is. :) | 01:18 |
| bkuhn | Yeah, Debian main is certainly not a curated list of "the best Free Software available". | 01:18 |
| jrmu | Another one that might be worth looking into is: https://prism-break.org/en | 01:19 |
| jrmu | although I find their recommendations generally very bad | 01:19 |
| bkuhn | Our goal here, although our project here has been dormant for a while, is to teach make materials that help teach people how copyleft works. | 01:19 |
| bkuhn | s/teach make/make/ | 01:19 |
| gry | hi bkuhn | 01:27 |
| gry | there is directory.fsf.org, but it is not all copyleft | 01:28 |
| bkuhn | Yes, I don't think there is a substantial value in listing only copyleft software in a directory, but instead having various directories and/or other places to find all known Free Software. | 01:28 |
| jrmu | What I think would be a perfect solution is to give the user the ability to sort based on license | 01:29 |
| bkuhn | And this project definitely isn't about listing copyleft-only projects, but rather about building tutorial materials about copyleft itself. | 01:29 |
| bkuhn | So, while I appreciate what you all want to do, it's off topic for this channel. The channel is pretty quiet, so you're welcome to discuss this here if it's useful for the day, but if you are going to start such a project, it might make sense to register a new channel. | 01:29 |
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