Thursday, 2016-08-04
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| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen hello | 12:00 |
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| bkuhn | greetings! | 12:00 |
| donaldr3 | karen: bkuhn sorry things have been jumbled up a bit of late | 12:01 |
| karen | hi donaldr3! | 12:01 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen you may have heard that jgay has left the fsf | 12:02 |
| karen | donaldr3, do you want to delay this discussion? | 12:02 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen and given some of the scheduling issues for the fall, the plan is to push back the CLE | 12:03 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen to probably happen in the spring | 12:03 |
| karen | ok | 12:04 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen we could possibly do like we did with the first one, having it tag along with LibrePlanet | 12:04 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen how did you guys feel about that set up the last time around? | 12:05 |
| karen | donaldr3: the thing is that massachussetts lawyers don't need CLE credits | 12:05 |
| karen | so doing it in another state might make sense | 12:05 |
| bkuhn | I think the setup last time was ok for a first try, but there was lot that needs improved. | 12:05 |
| karen | esecially along with a conference that may be in itself drawing lawyers from elsewhere | 12:06 |
| bkuhn | sorry very Baltimore of me "needs fixin'" is not proper grammar. :) | 12:06 |
| karen | my hesitation was more that it was the usual suspects | 12:06 |
| donaldr3 | karen: good point | 12:06 |
| karen | I think the bay area would make a lot of sense tbh | 12:07 |
| bkuhn | Yeah, I think it should be in the San Francisco Bay Area. | 12:07 |
| karen | jinx! | 12:07 |
| bkuhn | that's where most of these lawyers all, and all the CA ones need CLE. | 12:07 |
| donaldr3 | haha, nice, I'd like to do it there as well | 12:07 |
| bkuhn | FSF historically did them in NY and San Francisco. | 12:07 |
| bkuhn | because that's where the highest concentration of lawyers who needed CLE who work in this area are. | 12:07 |
| donaldr3 | so the hope going forward is that we make these a regular thing again | 12:08 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: how frequently did you hold them back in the day, would you say? | 12:08 |
| bkuhn | it's hard for me to remember, but the records should be floating around FSF. | 12:09 |
| bkuhn | I could look at my old trip file maybe | 12:09 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: if its a quick search feel free to take a look but I'll look into it over here as well | 12:10 |
| donaldr3 | SF was the original goal for it in October, so I think pinpointing it for the spring would make sense | 12:10 |
| donaldr3 | I can look into other events going on in the area to see if we can find one that would be drawing in more lawyers in the field | 12:11 |
| * bkuhn looks at his old trip file | 12:11 | |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: you had mentioned some 'needs fixin', I think we got some feedback at the time | 12:12 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: but if you (or karen) have more thoughts it would be helpful to get those in place | 12:12 |
| bkuhn | Yeah, I think generally we need a lot of promotion. | 12:13 |
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| donaldr3 | bkuhn: yes, I think our normal channels for promoting events probably don't hit as many lawyers as we'd like | 12:13 |
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| bkuhn | Here's one we did: 2004-01-19 through 2004-01-23: New York, NY, USA | 12:14 |
| donaldr3 | we have some more options in terms of lawyer focused mailing lists | 12:15 |
| donaldr3 | 4 days? hm | 12:15 |
| bkuhn | I don't seem to have the ones in San Francisco in my trip file | 12:15 |
| bkuhn | donaldr3: haha, no | 12:15 |
| bkuhn | that was just teh days I was in NYHC | 12:15 |
| karen | collab summit would be a good colocation but not if it's in tahoe again | 12:15 |
| bkuhn | My file says: Conference: LinuxWorld, GPL Seminar | 12:15 |
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| karen | (they haven't announced it yet) | 12:15 |
| bkuhn | so I probably went to LinuxWorld then the GPL Seminar after | 12:15 |
| * fontana wishes collab summit would return to SF | 12:16 | |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: that makes more sense | 12:16 |
| donaldr3 | karen: that looks like a good one, but it might collide with LP depending on the dates | 12:17 |
| bkuhn | fontana: haha, what do I care? I'm not invited there anymore. Only person in Collab Summit history who organized a track one year and wasn't invited the next. :) | 12:17 |
| karen | donaldr3, it hasn't in the past, but I agree it could | 12:17 |
| karen | there are a lot of unknowns there anyway | 12:17 |
| karen | like location :) | 12:17 |
| fontana | bkuhn: I don't think I was invited the year after we organized that track but I can't remember | 12:18 |
| donaldr3 | karen: right, I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of up in the air items | 12:19 |
| fontana | I do remember that it was a disturbing experience organizing the track and seeing how membership level at LF Influenced talk submission acceptances | 12:19 |
| bkuhn | donaldr3: so, I don't have any more in my trip file, but there's: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/NYC_Seminars_Jan2004.html https://www.gnu.org/licenses/200104_seminar.html | 12:19 |
| bkuhn | that's the NY one | 12:19 |
| donaldr3 | karen: when looking that far into the future | 12:19 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen if there are other potential speakers I may not be familiar with, an introduction would be helpful | 12:21 |
| donaldr3 | we want to do a full day event, and have some ideas in mind, but more candidates the beter ;) | 12:22 |
| bkuhn | fontana: are you interested in teaching a CLE class organized by FSF? | 12:24 |
| fontana | bkuhn: Possibly, yes | 12:24 |
| bkuhn | donaldr3: so there's one possibility. :) | 12:24 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: he's already on the list ;) | 12:25 |
| * fontana introduces himself to donaldr3 | 12:25 | |
| bkuhn | donaldr3: so, looking through old emails, I think we did two CLEs in San Francisco and 2 in NYC | 12:27 |
| bkuhn | in the old days | 12:27 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: ok, the idea josh and I had was to try and do one on each coast a year | 12:27 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: that might be a bit ambitious, given things as they are now | 12:28 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: but it's a good long-term goal | 12:29 |
| bkuhn | I think it's fine, I think both Karen and are willing to participate twice per year, I think karen might want co-branding | 12:29 |
| bkuhn | (with Conservancy) | 12:30 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: hm, I thought our last one was co-branded but I guess I'm misremembering | 12:31 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen But I'll look into why that wasn't the case; it makes sense after all | 12:33 |
| karen | sorry reading | 12:34 |
| bkuhn | Yeah, I think it wasn't really an issue for us then, we didn't push for it. We're not annoyed or anything about it. | 12:34 |
| bkuhn | But I think we do want co-branded FSF and Conservancy going forward | 12:34 |
| karen | donaldr3, I'm happy to introduce you to anyone :) | 12:35 |
| donaldr3 | karen: great! | 12:35 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen so my next action items on this are: look at better lawyer focused promotion, find events we could piggy-back on and find dates, look into co-branding with conservancy | 12:37 |
| karen | sounds good donaldr3! | 12:37 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen and for you guys, I'd ask that you think about other speakers you think would make a good addition | 12:38 |
| donaldr3 | fontana: you can join in on that as well ;) | 12:38 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen for copyleft.org, can we try to have that first low-key meeting next thursday, at this same time? | 12:39 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen and I promise to get the invites out in a reasonable manner | 12:39 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen oh, also if you had more feedback feel free to share it on the email thread | 12:41 |
| bkuhn | Ok, I can't really make a meeting next week as I'm keynoting GUADEC | 12:50 |
| bkuhn | two weeks should work, if it's later in the day | 12:50 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: so the 18th of august, at like 3:00 pm EDT? | 12:51 |
| karen | august 18 works for me donaldr3 | 12:53 |
| donaldr3 | karen: great! | 12:54 |
| bkuhn | 3pm EDT isa bit early for me | 12:54 |
| bkuhn | my flight lands 11:17 US/Pacific | 12:55 |
| bkuhn | so I might not be home until like 4PM EDT | 12:55 |
| karen | later is fine for me | 12:55 |
| bkuhn | *IF* | 12:55 |
| bkuhn | you wanted to do earlier | 12:55 |
| bkuhn | I could duck aside at airport | 12:55 |
| karen | well actually, it's tough for after 5pm | 12:55 |
| bkuhn | so if you were ok with me maybe not showing due to delay | 12:55 |
| karen | why don't we do it on another day though? | 12:55 |
| bkuhn | We coudl go for say 11:30 US/Pacific | 12:55 |
| bkuhn | it's really up to donaldr3 | 12:56 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: no that's fine, we could do 5pm EDT | 12:56 |
| karen | donaldr3, what I meant was that its' tough for me to work after 5pm EDT | 12:57 |
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| donaldr3 | karen: ah, I see | 12:57 |
| karen | usually I work from 7:30pm - 10:30pm eastern too, but that day may be harder for a number of reasons | 12:57 |
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| bkuhn | so, I just checked, my flight claims to have network | 12:58 |
| bkuhn | so I could do any time before 10:15 US/Eastern | 12:58 |
| bkuhn | I'll be awake on the flight and working, coming from EU/Central time zone | 12:58 |
| bkuhn | so I say let's tentatively schedule for finishing by 10:15 US/Eastern (any time in there is fine) | 12:59 |
| bkuhn | and if for some reason network doesn't work on flight | 12:59 |
| bkuhn | we go for 11:35 US/Eastern | 12:59 |
| bkuhn | er sorry | 12:59 |
| bkuhn | that's all US/pacific | 12:59 |
| karen | well bkuhn, wasn't the point to invite others? | 12:59 |
| karen | so it's hard to change the tikme at the last minute | 12:59 |
| bkuhn | so, basically sometime in US/Pacific morning, but not 10:15-11:35 US/Pacific | 12:59 |
| bkuhn | oh | 12:59 |
| bkuhn | hm | 12:59 |
| karen | I mean I'm not sure | 12:59 |
| bkuhn | yeah, it's true | 12:59 |
| karen | but donaldr3 can say for sure :) | 13:00 |
| donaldr3 | we could bump it to friday the 19th? | 13:00 |
| karen | friday the 19th sorks for me | 13:00 |
| bkuhn | that's ok for me I think | 13:00 |
| karen | works, even | 13:00 |
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| donaldr3 | could we do it at 11am eastern? | 13:01 |
| donaldr3 | I have to run the FS directory meetings now at noon on fridays | 13:01 |
| karen | works for me donaldr3 | 13:02 |
| bkuhn | 11AM US/Eastern is fine | 13:02 |
| karen | ok, it's in my calendar! | 13:03 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen thanks, great | 13:04 |
| donaldr3 | bkuhn: karen thanks for meeting with me and helping get the CLE on the right track | 13:05 |
| karen | thank you donaldr3! | 13:05 |
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