Monday, 2015-01-19
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| bkuhn | The log is back. :) | 12:34 |
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| ndsmith | I regret nothing! | 12:34 |
| bkuhn | ndsmith: you killed it? How did you do that? | 12:34 |
| ndsmith | no, I mean I regret nothing that I've said which is now in the public logs ;-) | 12:35 |
| bkuhn | ah. | 12:35 |
| bkuhn | The bot was still running | 12:35 |
| bkuhn | I couldn't figure out why it wasn't on IRC anymore. | 12:35 |
| enyst | thank you :) | 12:39 |
| ndsmith | bkuhn: you back after the conference? | 12:39 |
| bkuhn | Yes. | 12:39 |
| Calinou | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2sv8md/considering_the_future_of_copyleft_how_will_the/ | 12:39 |
| Calinou | GPL hate all over the place :/ | 12:39 |
| jxself | 'tis to be expected. You should watch Bradley's talk. | 12:40 |
| ndsmith | "they give you [the developer] actual freedom." | 12:40 |
| Calinou | actually it's wrong, copyright holder can always do anything | 12:41 |
| bkuhn | reddit is not known for attracting reasonable license debate. | 12:42 |
| bkuhn | The funny part about or-later not being automatic is that the GPL cedes LESS authority to FSF than EPL, MPL, and CC do to their respective orgs. | 12:42 |
| bkuhn | Most copylefts *don't* allow you to say -only. | 12:42 |
| bkuhn | You just have to trust the org in question. | 12:42 |
| bkuhn | FSF allows you to chose whether or not you trust the FSF. | 12:42 |
| Calinou | well, I wish the “or later” was bundled | 12:43 |
| Calinou | it'd save everyone's time | 12:43 |
| Calinou | with little risk | 12:43 |
| Calinou | the reason people leave copyleft is complexity | 12:43 |
| Calinou | so people take gigantic risks by using permissive licenses | 12:43 |
| Calinou | (and knowing the derivative works can go proprietary at any time for any reason) | 12:44 |
| bkuhn | I think it's an excuse. The reason people leave copyleft is because rich people who employ them are anti-copyleft for the usual reasons. | 12:44 |
| ndsmith | bkuhn: did you ever hear back from virtkick ? | 12:45 |
| bkuhn | I don't think so | 12:46 |
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| ndsmith | "OSCON"!!! | 17:32 |
| bkuhn | ndsmith: what about it? | 17:34 |
| ndsmith | just listening to your talk | 17:34 |
| ndsmith | when you were saying you like to be mad about something, so you still go to OSCON ;-) | 17:34 |
| ndsmith | bkuhn: after you move to PDX it will be so easy to attend :-) | 17:35 |
| bkuhn | haha. :) | 17:46 |
| bkuhn | Yes, I thought that made a good joke. | 17:46 |
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